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[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

[–]portcity[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

lolol what do ppl in Netherlands think about him / us?

[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Mainstream media think of him as the 'bad cheeto man' though perhaps less so than CNN and MSNBC, but do go on reporting his tweets. Some other media are more of the "He is president, don't judge on the fact you don't agree" but they also call out his bullshit on NK etc, nuking hurricanes etc.

Pretty sure everyone in the Netherlands liked this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNscBsYcBtc

Back in 2013(?) it was just in the news that Obama got inaugurated for his second term (might have been end of 2012) anyway, winter time. I was introduced to 'The Apprentice' and while smoking a joint I watched it and proclaimed to the dude who set it on: Dude, this guy should be the American President: He is exactly how the world views America.

We laughed and when Trump entered the race for republican candidate years later I tried to contact that dude, but alas, I was on my own freaking out. But it made it easier to call out crimes of America somehow, Trump may be 'weird' but the policy is all the same. Like Obama following up on Bush and (even though he got the Nobel peace prize right after he became president [which was weird to say the least]) went on and became Drone-bomber number 1. while the media was like 'he a good guy' - nah just another warlord, killing civilians for resources.

What Europeans think of the American people is another story and most of the Europeans understand that stupid American tourists aren't the representation of the people, So I would guess like normal people only with the weird custom of 'asking how you are' but not wanting the answer because it is a greeting somehow.

[–]portcity[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

That's so hilarious that you were like "he should be president because he's the typical american." Lmao. Ugh!!! Apparently a lot of us agree. :( Yeah, totally with you on Obama. They're all the same. I like Sanders though.

[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yeah Sander is kinda like Our prime minister... centrist-right (given our standards). Like our 'right' (even the extremes) do like our healthcare system, so for us that doesn't make Bernie left :p Only if he can really make education 'free' that might be lefist/centrist.

But to be honest the whole left/right thing is a faux game for divide and conquer especially in the American 2-party system. Here is our system/divide for example

[–]portcity[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Wow!! You have a lot of parties! It's so funny that Sanders would be center-right there because here he is considered far left. America is held hostage by the far right and most people here aren't even aware of it, they just consider "right" to be normal. It's so upsetting.

[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Well Bernie himself might be left, but if he became president that wouldn't change the democratic party, they would still be center-right so hmm, I meant you can vote sanders but he is not the party, not by a longshot.

But the distance between the politicians and the normal people is shocking.

[–]portcity[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yeah, I just saw an article today which I'll post in here that was about how far apart the american people are from their "leaders." How do you know so much about american politics? Is everyone in the Netherlands this informed?

[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I read the American section of spidr.today (new aggregator), watch Real Time on Sundays (if I can and it's there) and basically whole saidit is American focused and are most my mastodon contacts.

We do have our Dutch news reporting on some American things like the trade war, elections and Trump's tweets :p But no, I can fairly say that normal Dutch people aren't too much invested in American Politics.

[–]portcity[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You are very up to date on what's going on here. Like, you even seem to know nuances .... Do you want to live here some day? Your big appointment is tomorrow right?

[–]Mnemonic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"he should be president because he's the typical american."

No! I didn't mean it like that, but he is how america acts (the government) in the world. So he would be the embodiment of the American government.

Like ehm, I can dislike how 'The Netherlands' act, but that doesn't me me dislike myself nor my fellow country men, just the current government.

[–]portcity[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

ohhhh ok, yes I do see the difference. Both ways is funny though. And true! Unfortunately. You could have predicted for us how the election would go :(